of milk and men

Blogged by Administrator as Random — Administrator Tue 28 Mar 2006 4:42 pm

[13:06:59] {baal} you have an important user name -=baal=-
[13:07:06] {baal} you can put that in your req system
[13:07:25] {ormus} -=baal=- is already in use
[13:07:52] {baal} I hate you milkman ormus
[13:17:04] *** ormus is now known as ormus_aka_the_milkman.
[13:18:38] {maximus} heh
[13:20:01] {maximus} aka, isabella’s REAL father?
[13:20:18] {maximus} GE may be buying me all kinds of things
[13:20:19] {maximus} heh
[13:31:18] {nule} .
[13:31:28] {ormus_aka_the_milkman} yay!
[13:31:49] *** nule is now known as nule_the_cow.
[13:31:51] {nule_the_cow} mooo
[13:32:08] * ormus_aka_the_milkman gives nule_the_cow the eye
[13:34:30] {maximus} You two should really get together more often
[13:34:35] {maximus} …. i am thirsty
[13:34:52] {nule_the_cow} mooo
[13:35:10] * nule_the_cow extends a teet towards maximus
[13:35:14] * maximus installs cow 2.0 into nule_the_cow
[13:35:27] {maximus} don’t teet me nule!
[13:35:42] * nule_the_cow squirts maximus in the eye
[13:36:36] {maximus} gaaaahhhh!!!!
[13:44:46] {baal} wheee
[13:44:55] {baal} I’m really working over them to get treo’s in here
[13:44:58] {baal} instead of the huckleberry
[13:45:23] {baal} and I managed to get my hands on a SIM that somehow got missed in billing and has unlimited internet access
[13:45:28] {baal} bwa ha
[13:49:42] {baal} i’m seriously going to f#$%ing kill cheryl unless she figures out how to pay the phone bill
[13:50:00] {nule_the_cow} mooo
[13:50:01] {baal} I swear to god my phone has been shut off once a month since she started paying
[13:50:07] {nule_the_cow} moo mooo moo moo moooo
[13:50:13] *** nule_the_cow is now known as nule.
[13:50:20] {nule} I mean my laptop just left shanghai
[13:50:24] *** nule is now known as nule_the_cow.
[13:50:26] {nule_the_cow} mooo
[13:54:43] {ormus_aka_the_milkman} i’ll show ya a finga!
[13:55:02] {ormus_aka_the_milkman} shanghai, IN?
[13:55:57] {nule_the_cow} mooo!
[13:56:12] *** nule_the_cow is now known as nule.
[13:56:25] {nule} shanghai, china, damn you!
[13:58:06] {ormus_aka_the_milkman} oh
[14:10:08] {baal} yay!
[14:11:22] {nule} yay?
[14:11:44] {ormus_aka_the_milkman} yay!
[14:11:53] {baal} yay!

parental rights to embryos

Blogged by Administrator as Sociopolitical — Administrator Mon 20 Mar 2006 4:33 pm

[12:18:26] {ormus} geez
[12:18:44] {ormus} did you read about this lady fighting for use of her frozen embryos?
[12:18:49] {ormus} in britain
[12:18:51] {nule} no
[12:19:41] {ormus} had ivf performed with her boyfriend before having cancer treatment which would leave her infertile
[12:19:55] {ormus} now she’s infertile, wants to use them, but he withdrew his consent
[12:19:56] {ormus} oof
[12:19:58] {ormus} that sucks
[12:20:31] {nule} hrm…
[12:20:56] {ormus} i was reading about it here:
[12:20:58] {ormus} http://www.cnn.com/2006/LAW/03/07/embryos.ruling/index.html
[12:21:38] {nule} i guess I find it a bit surprising that he could withdraw consent
[12:22:17] {ormus} i guess maybe that’d depend on when you considered the embryo a person
[12:22:18] {ormus} ?
[12:23:53] {ormus} i see what you’re saying, though
[12:23:57] {ormus} he made the initial decision
[12:24:04] {ormus} presumably of his own free will
[12:24:23] {nule} i would just think the eggs are hers, fertilized or not
[12:24:45] {ormus} oh
[12:24:46] {ormus} i wouldn’t
[12:24:50] {ormus} especially in europe
[12:25:41] {nule} why’s that?
[12:26:37] {nule} i dunno, i can see why it’s a sticky issue, though
[12:26:42] {ormus} i see much of that coming down to father/mother rights
[12:26:51] {ormus} i think europe is more progressive in that sense
[12:27:00] {ormus} oh yeah, sticky no matter what
[12:27:57] {ormus} and by progressive i mean more of a 50/50 approach on their rights
[12:28:06] {ormus} that’s just my impression
[12:28:59] {nule} i kind of see it like this, irrespective of whatever laws may be involved
[12:29:10] {nule} the sperm’s his, the egg’s hers
[12:29:26] {nule} he consented for the use of the sperm to fertilize the eggs
[12:29:32] {nule} that’s done, right?
[12:29:45] {nule} well, I’d say she could do whatever she wants with the eggs now
[12:29:54] {nule} make an eggcicle (teehee) or whatever
[12:30:14] {ormus} yeah
[12:30:19] {ormus} ouch
[12:30:21] {ormus} that was bad
[12:30:28] {ormus} anyway, i definitely see your point
[12:30:46] {nule} if you saw the embryo as a person that’d make things weird
[12:30:47] {ormus} but…let’s say the embryo was allowed to grow
[12:30:56] {nule} you’d almost have to compel the woman to take it
[12:30:59] {ormus} the parents presumably have 50/50 say over the kid
[12:31:03] {ormus} so why not the embryo?
[12:31:30] {ormus} i know it’s a different
[12:31:31] {ormus} just a thought
[12:31:41] {nule} no it’s interesting
[12:32:05] {ormus} but yeah, once he consented, i wouldn’t have been surprised to see them rule that what’s done is done, either
[12:32:06] {nule} i guess it comes down to what he actually consented to
[12:32:29] {ormus} using that same example, it’s not like he could take back his consent for having a child once it’s born
[12:32:39] {nule} yeah
[12:32:54] {nule} although, I’m for extended the limits on abortion until they’re about 8 y/o
[12:32:58] {ormus} :)
[12:33:08] {nule} but them, I’m racist
[12:33:14] {ormus} yes, you are
[12:33:21] * ormus aborts nule (for once!)
[12:33:22] {ormus} yay!
[12:33:25] {nule} no!
[12:33:27] * nule dies
[12:33:32] * nule left clicks
[12:33:36] * nule runs to the buy zone
[12:33:38] {ormus} ack!
[12:33:40] * nule buys a bullpup
[12:33:44] * ormus runs (period)

—–a bit later—–

[14:23:50] {nule} UK laws allow parties to withdraw consent up until the embryos are implanted
[14:27:37] {nule} and five years to appeal until the embryos are destroyed
[14:27:50] {nule} at least they’re unambiguous
[14:27:59] {nule} but now I’m of the opinion the guy is just being a dick

snap!

Blogged by Administrator as Random — Administrator Fri 3 Mar 2006 3:59 pm

[11:36:09] {maximus} .
[11:37:11] {nule} hush, maximus
[11:43:21] {maximus} can’t you just finish this game nule?
[11:44:20] {maximus} i f*cking hate chess
[11:46:08] * ormus hears a clearly audible “snap!” in the distance
[11:47:16] {ormus} wha!?
[11:47:21] {ormus} you forfeited, maximus!?
[11:50:16] {maximus} i’m never playing again
[11:51:28] {nule^
[11:51:43] {nule} don’t give up!
[11:52:17] {nule} what else are we going to play online when we’re bored at work?!?
[11:58:14] {maximus} the maximus is currently rebooting
[12:21:37] {nule} beeeeep!
[12:32:39] {maximus} … still rebooting
[12:32:44] {maximus} and my pc speaker is broke
[12:33:20] *** maximus is now known as _80286.
[12:36:49] *** ormus is now known as TK421.
[12:38:42] {nule} you guys are so crazy
[12:42:44] {nule} how the hell do you add something to your PATH in windows?
[12:45:12] {nule} nm, figured something out
[12:49:27] * _80286 can’t run windows
[12:49:48] * TK421 is not at his post
[12:53:21] * _80286 swaps floppies
[12:53:27] {_80286} i’m getting close nule!
[12:54:49] * nule moves a little further from _80286
[12:55:40] * TK421 returns to his post

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